Hidden Valley Golf Club vs Valley View Golf Course;Valley View

5.8 mi apart · numbers from each course's map geometry

near Rome, New York

Utica, New York

Measure	Hidden Valley Golf Club	Valley View Golf Course;Valley View
Holes	18	18
Par	71	71
Par 3 · 4 · 5	4 · 11 · 3	3 · 13 · 2
Measured length	6,049 yd	6,373 yd
Longest hole	No. 10, 466 yd	No. 17, 487 yd
Bunkers	4	20
Sand	0.1 acres	0.3 acres
Holes with water	4	3
Water on the property	0.8 acres	0.3 acres
Total climb	226 ft	352 ft
Elevation	470–543 ft	637–899 ft
Biggest drop to a green	-43 ft	-122 ft
Average green	3,721 sq ft	3,807 sq ft
Average fairway width	46 yd	37 yd
Green to next tee, total	1,313 yd	2,053 yd
Property	139 acres	170 acres
Cart path	–	2.8 mi
Driving range	not mapped	not mapped

Hole by hole

Par and measured yards for each hole; rise is tee to green.

Hole	Hidden Valley Golf Club			Valley View Golf Course;Valley View
	Par	Yd	Rise	Par	Yd	Rise
1	4	398	+19	4	324	+38
2	4	358	-25	5	465	+10
3	3	103	-13	4	415	+73
4	4	394	-11	4	361	+27
5	4	364	-13	4	354	+12
6	3	194	+20	3	205	-31
7	4	374	-30	4	451	-122
8	4	339	-17	4	380	-7
9	5	461	+18	4	397	-35
10	5	466	+7	4	317	+71
11	3	224	-3	4	387	-7
12	4	375	+16	4	366	+1
13	4	360	-12	4	433	-14
14	3	157	0	3	143	+25
15	5	446	+14	4	375	+5
16	4	290	-43	4	352	+13
17	4	382	+33	5	487	-94
18	4	364	-11	3	161	-3

Both courses are drawn by OpenStreetMap contributors; a difference in detail (bunker counts especially) can be a difference in how carefully each was mapped. How each number is measured.