Palm Course at McCormick Ranch Golf Club vs Piipaash Course at Talking Stick Golf Club
3.2 mi apart · numbers from each course's map geometry
Palm Course at McCormick Ranch Golf Club
Scottsdale, Arizona
Piipaash Course at Talking Stick Golf Club
near Scottsdale, Arizona
| Measure | Palm Course at McCormick Ranch Golf Club | Piipaash Course at Talking Stick Golf Club |
|---|---|---|
| Holes | 18 | 17 |
| Par | 72 | 66 |
| Par 3 · 4 · 5 | 4 · 10 · 4 | 4 · 11 · 2 |
| Measured length | 6,927 yd | 6,284 yd |
| Longest hole | No. 16, 549 yd | No. 16, 542 yd |
| Bunkers | 0 | 60 |
| Sand | – | 2.2 acres |
| Holes with water | 7 | 5 |
| Water on the property | 41.4 acres | 9 acres |
| Total climb | 45 ft | 44 ft |
| Elevation | 1,286–1,316 ft | 1,301–1,338 ft |
| Biggest drop to a green | -8 ft | -11 ft |
| Average green | 5,760 sq ft | 4,681 sq ft |
| Average fairway width | – | 47 yd |
| Green to next tee, total | 1,571 yd | 972 yd |
| Property | 370 acres | 392 acres |
| Cart path | 10.6 mi | 10.7 mi |
| Driving range | not mapped | not mapped |
Hole by hole
Par and measured yards for each hole; rise is tee to green.
| Hole | Palm Course at McCormick Ranch Golf Club | Piipaash Course at Talking Stick Golf Club | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Par | Yd | Rise | Par | Yd | Rise | |
| 1 | 4 | 383 | -1 | 4 | 400 | -4 |
| 2 | 4 | 395 | -6 | 4 | 410 | -5 |
| 3 | 5 | 522 | -2 | 3 | 236 | +2 |
| 4 | 4 | 415 | +4 | 4 | 328 | +4 |
| 5 | 3 | 208 | -1 | 4 | 469 | +8 |
| 6 | 4 | 356 | +4 | 4 | 375 | -7 |
| 7 | 5 | 540 | +5 | – | – | – |
| 8 | 3 | 189 | 0 | 4 | 476 | +6 |
| 9 | 4 | 398 | +1 | 3 | 174 | +1 |
| 10 | 4 | 395 | +7 | 4 | 408 | -5 |
| 11 | 4 | 413 | +2 | 4 | 386 | +1 |
| 12 | 5 | 505 | 0 | 4 | 445 | +9 |
| 13 | 3 | 196 | +2 | 3 | 149 | +1 |
| 14 | 4 | 416 | 0 | 5 | 538 | +6 |
| 15 | 4 | 448 | +4 | 4 | 443 | -4 |
| 16 | 5 | 549 | -4 | 5 | 542 | -11 |
| 17 | 3 | 181 | -1 | 3 | 179 | +1 |
| 18 | 4 | 418 | -8 | 4 | 326 | +5 |
Both courses are drawn by OpenStreetMap contributors; a difference in detail (bunker counts especially) can be a difference in how carefully each was mapped. How each number is measured.